27 February 2015, The Tablet

Married priests would be the wrong solution

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Pope Francis has made clear that the question of married priests is open for discussion. Priestly celibacy is a discipline rather than a doctrine. It only became compulsory in the Middle Ages, though there is debate as to how common it was before then. There is already a de facto married Catholic priesthood made up of former Anglican priests who have joined the mainstream Church or the Ordinariate. Particularly in Africa, many Catholic priests have “wives” and children, even if these are not publicly acknowledged by the Church.

Pope Francis, Feb 2015People often assume that, as a feminist theologian and supporter of women’s ordination, I also support a married priesthood. However, I am more ambivalent about married priests, not because I am a man-hating feminist harpy (though I am amused to find myself described in those terms), but because I am orthodox when it comes to the doctrinal and sacramental mysteries of our faith.

Liberal Catholics tend to be uncritical in their embrace of progress. Women’s ordination becomes conflated with married priests as part of this progressive liberalism, but the concept of progress is itself deeply flawed. It is a myth rooted in modern Western superiority over other historical and cultural traditions. Rather, we must ask how our faith allows eternity to shimmer within the contingencies and complexities of history, and for that we must nurture the sacramental imagination.

When I converted to Catholicism in the 1980s, I was living in Zimbabwe and was attracted by the Catholic justice and peace movement, but justice and peace are not exclusive to the Catholic faith. What is unique is the liturgical and sacramental beauty of the Catholic tradition, rooted in a theology of grace that encourages us to see the shimmer of divine love in every aspect of the material world. The priesthood belongs within this sacramental mystery, and I do not want to see its mystical potency dissolved into bourgeois respectability. Women priests might be the catalyst the Church needs to reawaken our exhausted rituals to the mystery of the incarnation, communicated to us in the graced sacramentality of creation which is focused with particular intensity and presence in the sacrament of the Eucharist.

Married priests would in my view dissipate rather than intensify this mystery. Gone would be the total giving of self in service to Christ and neighbour to which the celibate priesthood at its best witnesses – a witness that, from the perspective of our sex-obsessed culture, is absurd. Gone would be the challenge to see in our ordinary, fallible parish priest a glimmer of the extraordinary miracle of a particular kind of vocation that makes no sense at all from the perspective of secular scepticism.

The ordination of celibate women would be a more coherent and potent symbol of these sacramental mysteries than the ordination of married men, which will inevitably dissolve the last traces of otherness that the Catholic Church represents and absorb us into a secularised and demystified culture. Nor is it true that just because a priest is married he is likely to be more woman-friendly than one who isn’t, or that married men are less likely to abuse children. Sex abuse is common to all sectors of society – it is a problem of power and masculinity, not of celibacy – and some of the worst forms of misogyny flourish in marriage.

Only when women are fully incorporated into the sacramental mystery of the priesthood will we be in a position to ask how the sacramental mystery of marriage might belong within that vocation. To do it the other way round is to diminish these mysteries in the interests of expediency, driven by an unacknowledged imperative to do whatever it takes to avoid the question of women priests.

Tina Beattie is Professor of Catholic Studies at the University of Roehampton

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Comment by: Sarah Phillip
Posted: 16/07/2016 02:54:39
My name is Sarah Phillip, i live in UK. My life is back!!! After 2 years of Broken marriage, my husband left me with two kids, I felt like ending it all.I came across several testimonies about this particular spell caster. Some people testified that he brought their Ex lover back, some testified that he restores womb,cure cancer,and other sickness, some testified that he can cast a spell to stop divorce and also spell to get a good paid job so on. He is amazing, i also come across one particular testimony, it was about a woman called Brenda, she testified about how he brought back her Ex lover in less than 2 days, and at the end of her testimony she dropped his email.After reading all these, I decided to give it a try. I contacted him via email and explained my problem to him. In just 48hours, my husband came back to me. We resolved our issues, and we are even happier than ever.Dr.FRED you are a gifted man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man. If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster, Try him anytime, he is the answer to your problems. you can contact him on (geniusspells@outlook.com or geniusspells@yahoo.com) or call him +13477733416
Comment by: Sarah Boyer
Posted: 11/07/2016 00:33:50
Dr Miracle is a real spell caster, he is so powerful, unique, and amazing. Dr Miracle restored happiness to my life again by bringing my husband back to me with his powers. Dr Miracle is a gifted and a very powerful good man and if not for him what would my life turn to? Dr Miracle may your good gods continue to bless you for your good deeds. Dr Miracle words can not express how much good you have done for me and i believe that even a thousand words won't be enough to describe your good great works. If you are facing any spiritual problem i advice you not to cry just contact Dr Miracle on his email or and his web site and he will solve all your problems. Contact him on his email:
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Comment by: Sarah Boyer
Posted: 11/07/2016 00:32:25
Dr Miracle is a real spell caster, he is so powerful, unique, and amazing. Dr Miracle restored happiness to my life again by bringing my husband back to me with his powers. Dr Miracle is a gifted and a very powerful good man and if not for him what would my life turn to? Dr Miracle may your good gods continue to bless you for your good deeds. Dr Miracle words can not express how much good you have done for me and i believe that even a thousand words won't be enough to describe your good great works. If you are facing any spiritual problem i advice you not to cry just contact Dr Miracle on his email or and his web site and he will solve all your problems. Contact him on his email:
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Comment by: Candycee Obatay
Posted: 10/07/2016 13:52:09
I never believed in Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster called DR FRED.. The man i wanted to marry left me 3 months to our wedding ceremony and my life was upside down.he was with me for 4 years and i really love him so much..he left me for another woman with no reasons..when i called him, he never picked up my calls and he don't want to see me around him…so,when i told the man what happened. he helped me to do some readings,and after the readings he made me to realize that the other woman has done some spells over my Husband and that is the reason why he left me..he told me he will help me to cast a spell to bring him back. At first i was skeptical but i just gave it a try…In 4 days, My Husband called me himself and came to me apologizing..I cant believe he can ever come back to me again but now i am happy he's back and we are married now and we live as a happy family..Am posting this to the forum if anyone needs the help of this man.Can contact him through this email address : geniusspells@outlook.com or geniusspells@yahoo.com his number +18643962049 Website: http://geniusspells.webs.com/
Comment by: Renee Abbey
Posted: 10/07/2016 05:30:57
HOW DR TRUST HELP ME TO RESTORE MY BROKEN MARRIAGE

My Name is Renee Abbey.. I want to say thank you to Dr Trust for the good thing he has done for me,Though am not sure if this is the best forum to show my joy and happiness for what he has done for me but i can't hide my happiness and my Joy so i have to share it with people, my marriage got crashed about two years ago and i tried all i could within my power but to no avail. i saw post and testimonial about the good things Dr Trust has been doing so i decided to give it a try. though he is always a busy man but when he responded back to my email, he gave me 48 hours for my marriage to be restored really just like he said my marriage was restored since then I am happy and i am living happily in my marriage. I am so grateful to Dr Trust you can always email him here: {Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com} Call +2348156885231 or text him on his web site http://ultimatespellcast8.wix.com/ultimatespellcast
Comment by: Renee Abbey
Posted: 10/07/2016 05:30:09
HOW DR TRUST HELP ME TO RESTORE MY BROKEN MARRIAGE

My Name is Renee Abbey.. I want to say thank you to Dr Trust for the good thing he has done for me,Though am not sure if this is the best forum to show my joy and happiness for what he has done for me but i can't hide my happiness and my Joy so i have to share it with people, my marriage got crashed about two years ago and i tried all i could within my power but to no avail. i saw post and testimonial about the good things Dr Trust has been doing so i decided to give it a try. though he is always a busy man but when he responded back to my email, he gave me 48 hours for my marriage to be restored really just like he said my marriage was restored since then I am happy and i am living happily in my marriage. I am so grateful to Dr Trust you can always email him here: {Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com} Call +2348156885231 or text him on his web site http://ultimatespellcast8.wix.com/ultimatespellcast
Comment by: Laura George
Posted: 10/07/2016 00:01:50

My Name is Laura George, From USA I wish to share my testimonies with the World about what Dr Richie has just done for me ,This great man brought my lost Ex husband to me with his great spell within 24 hours. I was married to my husband, we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to give him a child for 3 years he left me and told me he can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get him back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave his contact email (ultimatespellcaster777@gmail.com) then you won’t believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared and cast a very strong spell for me and bring my lost husband back within 24hrs, and after a month I missed my monthly period and went for a test and the result showed that i was pregnant. i am happy today am a mother of a baby girl, thank you once again the great Dr Richie for what you have done for me.Contact him on his private email ultimatespellcaster777@gmail.com if you are out there passing through any of this problems or predicaments in your life.
Comment by: KAREN LISA
Posted: 05/07/2016 06:04:37
With a great joy and fullness of happiness i my heart, i want to thank a powerful spell caster called Dr. Peace, I am from USA, before now i thought i have lost my husband for good after just 2 years of our marriage, We had a fight because he thought that i was cheating on him with my childhood friend and nothing like that happen. He was been deceived by my own very good friend who was having crush on him just to make him hers. Which she really succeeded till now, i tried my possible best to make him know the real truth that i was not cheating but he was already fed up because of the lies rendered against me by my own friend, from their i was searching for help because he was my life and without him i could hurt myself. I contacted three fake spell caster that drained me of my money before i came across Dr. Peace, who finally cast a spell on my husband that made him realize that i was not cheating on him, He came back begging me for forgiveness and that was how we came back and now he love me more than before, anything i tell him now is what he does, Thanks to the great and powerful Dr. Peace for restoring joy, happiness to my home again. If you need help, contact him on his email genuinelovespellhelper@gmail.com or genuinelovespellhelper@yahoo.com You can call his personal phone number +12708406308 and his website address is http://genuinelovespellhe.wixsite.com/genuinelovespell
Comment by: KAREN LISA
Posted: 05/07/2016 06:04:14
With a great joy and fullness of happiness i my heart, i want to thank a powerful spell caster called Dr. Peace, I am from USA, before now i thought i have lost my husband for good after just 2 years of our marriage, We had a fight because he thought that i was cheating on him with my childhood friend and nothing like that happen. He was been deceived by my own very good friend who was having crush on him just to make him hers. Which she really succeeded till now, i tried my possible best to make him know the real truth that i was not cheating but he was already fed up because of the lies rendered against me by my own friend, from their i was searching for help because he was my life and without him i could hurt myself. I contacted three fake spell caster that drained me of my money before i came across Dr. Peace, who finally cast a spell on my husband that made him realize that i was not cheating on him, He came back begging me for forgiveness and that was how we came back and now he love me more than before, anything i tell him now is what he does, Thanks to the great and powerful Dr. Peace for restoring joy, happiness to my home again. If you need help, contact him on his email genuinelovespellhelper@gmail.com or genuinelovespellhelper@yahoo.com You can call his personal phone number +12708406308 and his website address is http://genuinelovespellhe.wixsite.com/genuinelovespell
Comment by: KAREN LISA
Posted: 05/07/2016 06:01:53
With a great joy and fullness of happiness i my heart, i want to thank a powerful spell caster called Dr. Peace, I am from USA, before now i thought i have lost my husband for good after just 2 years of our marriage, We had a fight because he thought that i was cheating on him with my childhood friend and nothing like that happen. He was been deceived by my own very good friend who was having crush on him just to make him hers. Which she really succeeded till now, i tried my possible best to make him know the real truth that i was not cheating but he was already fed up because of the lies rendered against me by my own friend, from their i was searching for help because he was my life and without him i could hurt myself. I contacted three fake spell caster that drained me of my money before i came across Dr. Peace, who finally cast a spell on my husband that made him realize that i was not cheating on him, He came back begging me for forgiveness and that was how we came back and now he love me more than before, anything i tell him now is what he does, Thanks to the great and powerful Dr. Peace for restoring joy, happiness to my home again. If you need help, contact him on his email genuinelovespellhelper@gmail.com or genuinelovespellhelper@yahoo.com You can call his personal phone number +12708406308 and his website address is http://genuinelovespellhe.wixsite.com/genuinelovespell
Comment by: eric
Posted: 04/07/2016 14:55:31

Hello everyone reading this wonderful testimony,my wife dumped me 8 months ago after I accused her of seeing another man and insulting her.I want her back in my life but she refused to have any contact with me. She changed her line and block me not to have any contact with her. I was so confuse and don’t know what to do. So I reach to the internet for help and I saw a testimonies of how this powerful spell caster help them to get their ex back. So I contact the spell caster whose name is Dr Osato on the email (relationshipspell@gmail.com) and explain my problem to him and he cast a spell for me and assure me of 2days that my wife will return to me, and to my greatest surprise,the Second day of it my wife came knocking at my door and she beg me to forgive her and accept her back. I am so happy that my love is back again. Dr Osato,he is truly talented and gifted. Email him for any kind of help at RELATIONSHIPSPELL@GMAIL.COM his website: http://relationshipspellhelp.webs.com He is the only answer to relationship and marriage issues. He can be of great help and I will not stop publishing his good work because people are still talking about him on the Internet.
Comment by: eric
Posted: 04/07/2016 14:42:01

Hello everyone reading this wonderful testimony,my wife dumped me 8 months ago after I accused her of seeing another man and insulting her.I want her back in my life but she refused to have any contact with me. She changed her line and block me not to have any contact with her. I was so confuse and don’t know what to do. So I reach to the internet for help and I saw a testimonies of how this powerful spell caster help them to get their ex back. So I contact the spell caster whose name is Dr Osato on the email (relationshipspell@gmail.com) and explain my problem to him and he cast a spell for me and assure me of 2days that my wife will return to me, and to my greatest surprise,the Second day of it my wife came knocking at my door and she beg me to forgive her and accept her back. I am so happy that my love is back again. Dr Osato,he is truly talented and gifted. Email him for any kind of help at RELATIONSHIPSPELL@GMAIL.COM his website: http://relationshipspellhelp.webs.com He is the only answer to relationship and marriage issues. He can be of great help and I will not stop publishing his good work because people are still talking about him on the Internet.
Comment by: Sarah Boyer
Posted: 03/07/2016 15:29:47
Dr Miracle is a real spell caster, he is so powerful, unique, and amazing. Dr Miracle restored happiness to my life again by bringing my husband back to me with his powers. Dr Miracle is a gifted and a very powerful good man and if not for him what would my life turn to? Dr Miracle may your good gods continue to bless you for your good deeds. Dr Miracle words can not express how much good you have done for me and i believe that even a thousand words won't be enough to describe your good great works. If you are facing any spiritual problem i advice you not to cry just contact Dr Miracle on his email or and his web site and he will solve all your problems. Contact him on his email:
homeoflightandsolution@yahoo.com and this is his website: http://homeoflightandsolution.webs.com/ contact him and get your solution now. Thank you Dr Miracle for you are indeed miraculous.
Comment by: Richard
Posted: 01/07/2016 09:18:27
Good day everyone on this site. (I'm Richard Patt from Canada) I have a testimony to share about my life.My wife left home for two years to USA for a tourist, where She meant this guy and she was bewitch by the guy, my wife refuse to come back home again, i cry day and night looking for who to help me, i read a comment on the internet about a powerful spell caster called Dr. AKERECO From and i contacted the spell caster on his email: drakerecospellcaster@gmail.com to help me get my wife back to me and he ask me not to worry about anything that the oracle we fight for me.. he told me by mid-night when all the spirit is at rest he will cast a spell to reunite my wife back to me. and he did, in less than 2 days my wife came back to me and started crying that i should forgive her, am so happy for what this spell caster did for me and my wife. here, if you need his help gain. You can as well visit His website: http://akerecolovespell.wix.com/akerecolovespell contact him immediately for any problem we be solved. You can as well whats-app him or call at +2348071258262.
Comment by: Tiffany sheila
Posted: 29/06/2016 03:27:52
After 9 years in marriage with my hubby with 3 kids, my husband started going out with other ladies and showed me cold love, on several occasions he threatens to divorce me if I dare question him about his affair with other ladies, I was totally devastated and confused until a old friend of mine told me about a spell caster on the internet Dr. Trust who help people with the relationship and marriage problem by the powers of love spells, at first I doubted if such thing ever exists but decided to give it a try, when I contact him, he helped me cast a spell and within 24hours my husband came back to me and started apologizing, now he has stopped going out with ladies and he his with me for good and for real. Contact ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com or call +2348156885231 ..
Comment by: Tiffany sheila
Posted: 29/06/2016 03:27:28
After 9 years in marriage with my hubby with 3 kids, my husband started going out with other ladies and showed me cold love, on several occasions he threatens to divorce me if I dare question him about his affair with other ladies, I was totally devastated and confused until a old friend of mine told me about a spell caster on the internet Dr. Trust who help people with the relationship and marriage problem by the powers of love spells, at first I doubted if such thing ever exists but decided to give it a try, when I contact him, he helped me cast a spell and within 24hours my husband came back to me and started apologizing, now he has stopped going out with ladies and he his with me for good and for real. Contact ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com or call +2348156885231
Comment by: Happy home instead of seperation
Posted: 25/06/2016 22:14:07
Why wait till it get worst and broken?I was wondering before now why people talk more about him, before I tested and he proved his powers. Am offering praises to Doc Osaze, though I haven’t met him face to face, but his spiritual powers penetrated deep inside me. One thing I like most about him is he is “a man of one word”, he did accurate reading and cast the spell at the appropriate time, and I also got the result at the said time. Doc stated clearly that he is only interested in my happiness, after seeing my sleepless night.I promised to share my experience to people if he finally bring back my husband, which he did, I could have written badly about him if my wife didn’t comeback as promised or if the spell had negative effects on me or my family. My wife and I are now making plans so Dr. Osaze can come visit and bless our family. Am so honoured to share his email which I recommend to people who want their lover back, email: (spirituallove@hotmail. com)
Comment by: katherinac
Posted: 22/06/2016 23:17:28
(How i got my husband back)

My husband and i have live together for 15yrs and married for 11yrs and he divorce me 3months ago. I was worried and so confuse because i love him so much and i need him back home, i was really going too depressed and it has affect me so much that i feel my life have come to an end. One day a friend of mine told me about this spell caster called Dr Kala who can help me get my husband back and she told me many people are talking about him all over the internet and she gave me his email (kalalovespell@gmail.com) i contact him and i made all my problems known to him and he told me not to worry that he was going to make my husband to come back to me and in just 48hours i receive a call from my husband and he was appealing that i should come back to the house. I have never in my life believe in spell but now he has just helped me out to be a fulfill woman and i am now so happy. All Thanks to DR KALA and if you also want to have your Husband back to yourself here !! his email again is KALALOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM or you whatsapp him on +2347051705853 i am so happy to testify of your work and kindness.
Comment by: Bekar
Posted: 19/06/2016 15:45:26
Hi My name is "BEKAR JOE" I was married for 15years with lilian. things started getting ugly and we had fights and arguments almost every time... it got worse at a point that she filed for divorce... I tried my best to make her change her mind & stay with me.she moved out of the house and still went ahead to file for divorce... I pleaded and tried everything but still nothing worked. The breakthrough came when someone introduced me to this wonderful, great spell caster who eventually helped me out... I have never been a fan of things like this but just decided to try reluctantly cause I was desperate and left with no choice... He did special prayers and used roots and herbs... Within 2 days she called me and was sorry for all the emotional trauma she had cost me, she moved back to the house and we continue to live happily. what a wonderful miracle dr. trust did for me and my family. I have introduced him to a lot of couples with problems across the world and they have had good news... I strongly believe someone out there need's his help.(Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com or ultimatespellcast@gmail.com)so make extra effort to save your marriage/relationship if it's truly worth it.call him +2348156885231 his Via web sit: (http://ultimatespellcast8.wix.com/ultimatespellcast) ....
Comment by: Bekar
Posted: 19/06/2016 15:44:42
Hi My name is "BEKAR JOE" I was married for 15years with lilian. things started getting ugly and we had fights and arguments almost every time... it got worse at a point that she filed for divorce... I tried my best to make her change her mind & stay with me.she moved out of the house and still went ahead to file for divorce... I pleaded and tried everything but still nothing worked. The breakthrough came when someone introduced me to this wonderful, great spell caster who eventually helped me out... I have never been a fan of things like this but just decided to try reluctantly cause I was desperate and left with no choice... He did special prayers and used roots and herbs... Within 2 days she called me and was sorry for all the emotional trauma she had cost me, she moved back to the house and we continue to live happily. what a wonderful miracle dr. trust did for me and my family. I have introduced him to a lot of couples with problems across the world and they have had good news... I strongly believe someone out there need's his help.(Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com or ultimatespellcast@gmail.com)so make extra effort to save your marriage/relationship if it's truly worth it.call him +2348156885231 his Via web sit: (http://ultimatespellcast8.wix.com/ultimatespellcast)
Comment by: kaylama
Posted: 16/06/2016 05:16:36

I never knew people still have powers and make things happened. My husband left me for another woman three months ago and ever since then my life have been filled with pains, sorrow and heart break because he was my first love whom i have spent my entire life with. A friend of mine told me he saw some testimonies of a spell caster called Dr Kala of (kalalovespell@gmail.com) that he can bring back lover within some few days, i laugh it out and said i am not interested but because of the love my friend had for me, she consulted the great priest on my behalf and to my greatest surprise after 2 days my husband called me for the very first time after three months that he is missing me and that he is so sorry for everything he made me went through.He came back to me and now we are happy together. I still can’t believe it, because it highly unbelievable. Thank you Dr Kala for bringing back my lover and also to my lovely friend who interceded on my behalf, for anyone who might need the help of this great priest here is his email address: kalalovespell@gmail.com or you can call or whatsapp the great man on +2347051705853
Comment by: kaylama
Posted: 16/06/2016 05:15:57

I never knew people still have powers and make things happened. My husband left me for another woman three months ago and ever since then my life have been filled with pains, sorrow and heart break because he was my first love whom i have spent my entire life with. A friend of mine told me he saw some testimonies of a spell caster called Dr Kala of (kalalovespell@gmail.com) that he can bring back lover within some few days, i laugh it out and said i am not interested but because of the love my friend had for me, she consulted the great priest on my behalf and to my greatest surprise after 2 days my husband called me for the very first time after three months that he is missing me and that he is so sorry for everything he made me went through.He came back to me and now we are happy together. I still can’t believe it, because it highly unbelievable. Thank you Dr Kala for bringing back my lover and also to my lovely friend who interceded on my behalf, for anyone who might need the help of this great priest here is his email address: kalalovespell@gmail.com or you can call or whatsapp the great man on +2347051705853
Comment by: Jerry miler
Posted: 11/06/2016 04:20:57
Best spell caster of the year revealed by google. save your crumbling marriage now.
Am Jerry miler, I live in London, and I’m happily married with a lovely wife and three children. I had a very big problem with my wife few months ago, to the extent that she left the house with our kids to her parents' for almost 5 months. All efforts to bring them back proved abortive. Friends and Family were all in concern and my very close mate gave me an advice concerning a spell caster, and he quote; “There’s someone who can handle your situation, he’s always ready and able to do anything related to spiritual matters, I searched for a spell caster on the internet, his advert was everywhere, i found his number and called him on his mobile number +2347052958531. Although I never believed in spell casting, but he convinced me and I had no choice than to follow his advice, because I never dream of losing my lovely wife and I was desperate. So I did all what he told me to do and i did. He told me that I’ll get my wife back in two days after the spell is completed. I was skeptical. He casted the spell for me and i was so anxious waiting to see or hear from her, until the second day when my wife called and said she was coming HOME…..It was like a joke to me!!! That’s how I got my family back through spiritual means and our relationship is now stronger than ever. One of the price I was asked to pay was to tell it to people around me that problems like this, can always be solved by Dr Ewan. An
Comment by: Sarah Boyer
Posted: 21/05/2016 18:28:44
Dr Miracle is a real spell caster, he is so powerful, unique, and amazing. Dr Miracle restored happiness to my life again by bringing my husband back to me with his powers. Dr Miracle is a gifted and a good man and if not for him what would my life turn to? Dr Miracle may your good gods continue to bless you for your good deeds. Dr Miracle words can not express how much good you have done for me and i believe that even a thousand words won't be enough to describe your good great works. If you are facing any spiritual problem i advice you not to cry just contact Dr Miracle on his email or and his web site and he will solve all your problems. Contact him on his email:
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Comment by: Sarah Boyer
Posted: 19/05/2016 02:04:15
Dr Miracle is a real spell caster, he is so powerful, unique, and amazing. Dr Miracle restored happiness to my life again by bringing my husband back to me with his powers. Dr Miracle is a gifted and a good man and if not for him what would my life turn to? Dr Miracle may your good gods continue to bless you for your good deeds. Dr Miracle words can not express how much good you have done for me and i believe that even a thousand words won't be enough to describe your good great works. If you are facing any spiritual problem i advice you not to cry just contact Dr Miracle on his email or and his web site and he will solve all your problems. Contact him on his email:
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Comment by: jessie
Posted: 17/05/2016 12:53:41
THIS IS REALLY GOODNEWS: Thanks to Doctor Abu for this. I did got sick and tired of men cheating and cheating and doing it all over again. Breaking your heart all over and over again. My partner was doing this to me recurretnly. But all I ever did was to love him dearly but he took advantage of that. I got fed up and wanted to do something to keep him and make him love just me alone. So I was directed to doctor Abu, a voodoo priest. Told him my plight and he agreed to help me. I provided everything required for the voodoo love spell. He cast the voodoo spell and voila!!! It worked like a miracle, my partner started showing love and care like never before, treat me like a queen now. I feel so much better and happy now. All thanks to doctor Abu, this man is the big deal. He's really good with all kind of voodoo. He just helped my friend too.

He can help with the following voodoo:
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6.Business Boom Voodoo
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Comment by: staceysleck
Posted: 15/05/2016 19:04:40

(How i got my husband back)

My husband and i have live together for 15yrs and married for 11yrs and he divorce me 3months ago. I was worried and so confuse because i love him so much and i need him back home, i was really going too depressed and it has affect me so much that i feel my life have come to an end. One day a friend of mine told me about this spell caster called Dr Kala who can help me get my husband back and she told me many people are talking about him all over the internet and she gave me his email (kalalovespell@gmail.com) i contact him and i made all my problems known to him and he told me not to worry that he was going to make my husband to come back to me and in just 48hours i receive a call from my husband and he was appealing that i should come back to the house. I have never in my life believe in spell but now he has just helped me out to be a fulfill woman and i am now so happy. All Thanks to DR KALA and if you also want to have your Husband back to yourself here !! his email again is KALALOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM or you whatsapp him on +2347051705853 i am so happy to testify of your work and kindness.
Comment by: staceysleck
Posted: 15/05/2016 19:03:45

(How i got my husband back)

My husband and i have live together for 15yrs and married for 11yrs and he divorce me 3months ago. I was worried and so confuse because i love him so much and i need him back home, i was really going too depressed and it has affect me so much that i feel my life have come to an end. One day a friend of mine told me about this spell caster called Dr Kala who can help me get my husband back and she told me many people are talking about him all over the internet and she gave me his email (kalalovespell@gmail.com) i contact him and i made all my problems known to him and he told me not to worry that he was going to make my husband to come back to me and in just 48hours i receive a call from my husband and he was appealing that i should come back to the house. I have never in my life believe in spell but now he has just helped me out to be a fulfill woman and i am now so happy. All Thanks to DR KALA and if you also want to have your Husband back to yourself here !! his email again is KALALOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM or you whatsapp him on +2347051705853 i am so happy to testify of your work and kindness.
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Comment by: Martin
Posted: 06/03/2015 14:15:43

"such a step would likely trigger a huge renewal and enlivening"

Just like Vatican II was supposed to, you mean?

The reality is that such a step would be hugely divisive and many, such as myself, would simply reject it outright. There would be schism.

Comment by: Cathy Wattebot
Posted: 05/03/2015 14:46:40

There is perhaps an assumption that the ordination of celibate women priests would produce a mirror image of today's clerical castes. In reality, such a step would likely trigger a huge renewal and enlivening, going far beyond just the women ordained to priesthood, and enabling a new dignity for all.

On the other hand, the regularization of an existing patchwork scenario of married or partnered men in the priesthood would be unlikely to set the world alight. It is unclear that the many who have left the priesthood to marry would be included either.

As to ordination of women in the past, the 2010 call: "900 years of women's diaconate - why not now?" corresponds to the positive consensus of catholic theologians and historians, including those of the Vatican's International Theological Commission, that there was sacramental ordination of of women deacons in the church through many centuries.

We may be running out of time to get it right with women in the church. Karl Rahner SJ wrote of limits to patience (in his 1977 article "Priestertum der Frau?" in Stimmen der Zeit in 1977): "This patience should not be taken advantage of too much, for time is short. We certainly cannot wait around for 100 years without damage to the Church."

Comment by: catholic kitbag
Posted: 04/03/2015 22:51:49

This discussion is taking place bracketed by the two Synods on the Family and against a backdrop of ageing priests (frequently looking after two parishes) many of whom feel the loneliness rather than the joy of celibacy.
So for me it has been interesting completing the questions in the Lineamenta (and others from CBCEW, & ACTA) for the forthcoming Synod, because I was surprised by the poverty of my answers about exactly what we are doing - or rather not doing - to promote family life in our parish communities. Not the classic 2+2 family, but the messy three generation step families, that are the norm for our time and culture. History relates that from 1300 the parish became the base unit, either intentionally or unintentionally, so overriding the importance of the family. The reality is that for many years the domestic church has not been a priority. Thankfully the two synods are realigning this bias.
For today what is needed are priests who are competent proven leaders, parents (god willing) and husbands - bus drivers of the family bus (shared with a woman) , not navigators or back seat drivers.
Is our hope for the future, especially families, to ordain celibate women to a group of lonely overworked celibate men? Is that really progress? Ordain married men to the priesthood now.

Comment by: Martin
Posted: 04/03/2015 13:57:48

"it started after some centuries to reject the existing ordination of women"

Existing? The Church has never accepted female ordination (and don't cite the deaconess Phoebe, she wasn't a deacon in the ordained sense)

Comment by: Edmund Burke
Posted: 04/03/2015 12:28:29

When will correspondents generally recognize that we have long had priests who are married in some of our Eastern Rites, and that this innovation did not begin with Anglican convert clergy?

Comment by: Chris McDonnell
Posted: 03/03/2015 15:12:42

There is no wish on my part personally nor of MMaC generally to show misogyny as Cathy suggests. But, one step first. It is within the discipline of the Church to agree on the ordination of married men in a short space of time. The title of the article One man, two vocations emphasises just that. It in no way suggests anything else.
The gifts that women bring to the Church are beyond question. We would be poorer without them. And if we were wise enough to extend opportunity beyond what we presently have, then we would be enriched by the experience.

Comment by: Precentrix
Posted: 03/03/2015 14:05:47

The author may like to check...

//Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church's divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful.//

HH John Paul II of blessed memory, ordinatio sacerdotalis.


Fwiw, I don't have any issues with the ordination of married men; the two vocations of the priesthood and consecrated celibacy are complementary but not indistinguishable. I count some lovely married priests - and priests' wives - as friends, Eastern and legit.

Comment by: Martin
Posted: 03/03/2015 13:39:22

"Orthodox theology does not accord ontological significance to sexual difference and could therefore accommodate women priests with no doctrinal change."

Is this true? I find it very difficult to believe. It is certainly the case that the Orthodox place an extremely high value on tradition and there is no way they would accept a female priesthood.

Comment by: Cathy Wattebot
Posted: 03/03/2015 13:32:29

I have with regret a feeling of ambivalence about the position of the
Movement for Married Clergy, and this is not allayed by Chris' reference to a man with two vocations or a wife. I hope there could be an acknowledgment of what Tina is saying, and a conscientious rejection of the culture of misogyny which the church sadly assumed when it started after some centuries to reject the existing ordination of women. In our time, the failure properly to accept women's gifts in the church is a scandal which has consequences beyond religion.

Comment by: Chris McDonnell
Posted: 03/03/2015 10:51:44

Acceptance of a married priesthood does not demand relinquishing the option for those whose vocation includes accepting celibacy. It does recognise however that one man might have two vocations (see my article in the Tablet July 19th 2014)
Loving and being loved by a wife does not preclude celebrating the Eucharist for the love of the Lord and the care of the people. Let us continue the discussion for the needs of the Church
Secretary Movement for Married Clergy

Comment by: Tina Beattie
Posted: 03/03/2015 07:19:56

I find many of the responses thought-provoking and interesting, and I hope people note that I admit to some ambivalence rather than certainty around these issues. Pope Francis has repeatedly reminded us how important a role doubt must play in the life of faith, and I am expressing deep and difficult doubts rather than convictions here. I make the point at the end that the ordination of women would allow us then to ask how the sacrament of marriage might belong within the vocation to the priesthood. I am also of course aware that the Eastern Rite and Orthodox churches have married priests, but thank you to those who have pointed it out. However, I wonder if that doesn't reinforce my point. I deeply respect the mysticism and sacramentality of the Orthodox liturgy, but of all Christian churches, the Orthodox retains the most devastating view of the polluting effects of the female body. I understand that menstruating women are discouraged from receiving the Eucharist (please correct me if I'm wrong), and even chickens are not allowed on Mount Athos! Paradoxically, Orthodox theology does not accord ontological significance to sexual difference and could therefore accommodate women priests with no doctrinal change. Yet it is clear that a married priesthood has not nurtured a positive attitude towards the goodness of the female body created by God in all its functions and capacities.

Comment by: Kenneth Mortimer
Posted: 02/03/2015 20:28:36

Concerning married priests. Here in the Middle East, where Catholics in full union with Rome are mostly of the Eastern Churches, particularly Maronite and Greek Melkite Catholic, married priests are normal, with no diminution of vocations to the religious orders. In the past they were often less educated, but this is no longer the case. They include many zealous and apostolic men. This is better than ordaining men of inferior character when a bishop is desperate to find priests but can only ordain celibates. During military service I saw unhappy chaplains who should never have been ordained, though others were apostolic saints. When young in UK I saw priests depressed (danger of nervous depression) because of loneliness. Celibates have a fine ideal but must live in community. The Church has a duty to provide the sacraments, liturgy and doctrine and any competent bishop should be able to choose married after judging their character. The Eastern Catholic bishops and monks I know find the Latin discipline laughable.
Kenneth Mortimer, Lebanon

Comment by: myrtat
Posted: 02/03/2015 18:18:42

I am deeply dismayed at Professor Beattie's article. As a Professor of Religious Studies and a married Catholic priest I must correct Prof. Beattie on a number of counts. First she refers to the "de facto" married Catholic priesthood as former Anglican priests. However, there have been "de facto" married Catholic priests for centuries! Easter Catholic Churches have, in spite of Rome's displeasure and attempts to suppress, sustained the practice of the ancient Church without interruption. Secondly, Prof. Beattie rightly recognizes the question of celibacy as a discipline. Yet, she asserts that her "ambivalence" is due to her doctrinal and sacramental "orthodoxy". A discipline is not a matter of doctrinal or sacramental orthodoxy! Finally, it is insensitive at best and insulting at the worst to suggest that the thousands of married Catholic priests (and often their spouses) who gave their lives during the attempted Soviet destruction of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church did not reflect the "total giving of self in service to Christ and neighbour", which Prof. Beattie thinks is only reflected in the celibate priesthood!

Comment by: Andreas
Posted: 02/03/2015 16:29:19

It seems to me that Professor Beattie's argument is flawed from the start. As Stephen Pope says, she does nor address the basic issue - the alarmingly diminishing numbers of priests and the therefore priestless parishes for millions of Catholics. Another important question she does not ask is: what do serving Catholic priests think about the problem? To what extent is it in the present context still possible for them to lead a life of total devotion without the support of a loving wife and family? Why have so many dedicated priests renounced their vows -often after long and agonizing mind-searching ? I do not know if the ordination of women will be possible in the not so distant future, but the status of the male clergy is a matter of utmost urgency. The status of Orthodox priests and the exemplary dedication of non-clerical Christians are also given far too little attention.

Comment by: Martin
Posted: 02/03/2015 11:06:12

So, in sum, she opposes something that would require only a change of discipline and supports something that is wholly and utterly doctrinally impossible. You have it the wrong way around entirely, Ms Beattie.

Comment by: GS
Posted: 01/03/2015 12:46:38

Click and consider:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?autoplay=1&v=7pdoS7XHQa4

I loved a priest, and he loved me.

Comment by: Edd Bartlett
Posted: 28/02/2015 23:14:01

Married priests would not remove the "total giving of self in service to Christ and neighbour" that the celibate priesthood has offered. One reason for this is that there would still be men who have a calling to a celibate way of life, as do women, after all the vocation to celibacy is a gift from God.
However this does not mean that men could not be married and offer service to Christ and their neighbour, the priesthood is a vocation of service in the RCC just as it is in other churches; and it can not be said that parishioners are complaining of an inadequate clergy.
What is, I suppose ironic, is that I have an opposite view to Professor Beattie in so far as I would see women priests as a far more controversial and secular decision than reintroducing a married clergy, after all it has only been since 1139 that celibacy has been a required discipline for receiving holy orders; in the history of Christianity that doesn't seem all that long.
In terms of allowing married priests being in the interests of expediency, surely the same could be said for the introduction of women priests?

Comment by: Soline Humbert
Posted: 28/02/2015 21:55:16

It seems to me one can advocate for the ordained priesthood to be open to both women and men,married and celibate,not because one is a liberal progressive but because one believes that men and women,married and celibate have a genuine call or vocation. Surely it is a matter of spiritual discernment . Is there genuine vocations outside our present parameters? What is the Spirit doing in the church?

how does a priest living out the sacrament of marriage (not "bourgeois respectability")dissipate the mystery of the Incarnation and of the Eucharist?
All Christians, whether married or celibate are called to the total giving of self to God and neighbour: that is the universal call to holiness.

Comment by: Stephen Pope
Posted: 28/02/2015 17:08:30

Professor Beattie doesn't address the main problem: the diminishing number of priests and therefore priest-less parishes for millions of Catholics. The counter-cultural witness she defends can be retained by those who remain celibate among the secular clergy and religious orders. The most powerful witness to the Christian mysteries comes from Christians whose lives offer a witness to the joy of the gospel. Many talented lay people who feel called to ordained ministry would be highly effective in manifesting the "mystical potency" of the sacraments.

Comment by: Poetman
Posted: 28/02/2015 16:44:12

No ordained priesthood IS the solution.

Comment by: Fr Robin Gibbons
Posted: 28/02/2015 15:51:17

I am one of the few British born eastern rite catholic priests in the UK, because I was professed as a Benedictine Monk I am a celibate priest, but we have many holy and devoted married priests who are catholic, so perhaps Professor Beattie might like to make clear that she is speaking about thr Latin or Roman Rite and not the rest of the other Catholic Churches.
I do not make any distinction between myself and any of them in any way whatsoever and as the Eastern Church ( both Catholic and Orthodox) is very much a church of mystery and grace, we ( and I speak for those of us in these traditions) find in our sacraments and worship, especially in the Divine Liturgy, what Professor Beattie wishes for, namely a priesthood and people "rooted in a theology of grace that encourages us to see the shimmer of divine love in every aspect of the material world'. Priesthood and marriage are two different vocations, but they can exist together and have done from very early times in the historical Church of Christ, and are part of that living tradition of the Church. That this is so, is due to the grace and power of the life giving Spirit present in all places and all things!
Celibacy has its place, but it is not essential to priestly ministry! For us the 'domestic church' that is normal life in our homes is also where the work of God is taught, found and lived!

Comment by: jacobi
Posted: 28/02/2015 08:32:37

The number of Catholic priests declines sharply and steadily. Married priests is seen by some as a solution. That has been permitted in other churches to no effect and will not impact in any significant way on the Catholic decline.

Comment by: Christian
Posted: 28/02/2015 01:00:49

Christ is Risen!
We HAVE married priests in the RCC. Many are priests from other denominations who with their family join the RCC. The Eastern Rite have had married priests for centuries. Only Bishops must be celebate. What is the problem?

Comment by: David
Posted: 27/02/2015 18:24:29

Leaving all other arguments aside, I think it worth pointing out that the whole model of diocesan pristhood would have to rethought if priests were to marry. They would need a decent wage to support a family (where will the money come from?). They could not be expected to move around as easily as celibate clergy (children can't just be uprooted from school like that). They may need to move to other parts of country for family reasons (making permanent incardination into a given diocese difficult). Some parishes may be unsuitable for family reasons (inadequate accomodation; poor schools; too isolated). Let's not image that we can keep the same model if we allow priests to marry. These are not arguments for leaving everything as it is. But they serve to remind us that major practical considerations need to be taken into consideration.

Comment by: emmett coyne
Posted: 27/02/2015 18:08:15

I feel this is a poor use of time to respond to Ms. Beattie.
The issue of a married clergy since VII has gone on 'ad nauseam." As Jesus reminded us, the weightier issues are given short shrift.
TB boosts her orthodoxy and it is "her orthodoxy" .
There is no need for priesthood, married, female, etc.
If we are "orthodox" (and Nietzeche reminds us that interpretation is a function of power & not truth), recall Jesus never used the word priest. He was well aware of priests, given Jewish priesthood. Why reluctant? Possibly it was tied to Temple corruption.
Jesus called men & women to be disciples for the Kingdom of God.
TB ignores the unbroken tradition of a married priesthood in Eastern Catholics (and Orthodox). TB is very narrow in her understanding of Catholic- only the late Roman one.
She is dismissive in how wide spread married priests were prior to the boom being lowered. The fact there were and the apostles were married have no weight in "her tradition."
Rather she exudes shimmering & glimmering evasive language.
And excoriates our "sexually obsessed" time. When weren't people sexually obsessed? Define terms, please!
Her comment - "Gone would be the total giving of self in service ... celibate priesthood at its best witnesses" is so dismissive of incredible witnesses of self giving by non clerical persons in our world today, even married! 

Comment by: Posy
Posted: 27/02/2015 17:37:19

I am do pleased to see Prof Beattie's comments. I thought I was alone in wanting to see a celibate female priesthood before a married male one. This is because I view marriage as a hugely important vocation. A married person's first priority, after God, must ALWAYS be to their spouse - something that I think is incompatible with a priest's duty of serving their people. It is possible that we may revisit the Orthodox system but please let's consider celibate women, who have already decided to give themselves totally to God and His people, first.

Comment by: Luis Gutierrez
Posted: 27/02/2015 16:25:06

Absolute agreement. Ordain celibate women! Please see my notes about this here:

Ordination of Women in the Sacramental Churches
http://www.pelicanweb.org/solisustv11n03supp6.html#section9

Based on the Catechism of the Catholic Church and John Paul II's Theology of the Body, my understanding is that the ordination of women to the priesthood would be in perfect continuity with apostolic tradition. This is not about what women (or men) want. This is about discerning what Christ wants for the Church in the 21st century, for the glory of God and the good of souls. Would Jesus, in today's world, choose 12 males to represent the patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel?

The ordination of celibate women is the way to go!

Critical feedback would be appreciated.

Prayers,
Luis

Comment by: Mgr Andrew Burnham
Posted: 27/02/2015 15:19:42

Leaving aside the issue of women priests - it would be a generation far removed from the one that declared the issue settled that next got to discuss it - I think (and I would say this as a married priest) that there IS a discussion to be had about married priests in the light of relations with the Orthodox. When I came over I could not continue as a bishop because, it was said, the shared tradition does not have married bishops. Yet the Orthodox have both a celibate (albeit monastic) priesthood and some married priests in parishes. This balance between religious in community and married clergy in the wider community seems to me to be admirable. Not as the norm but as a fuller expression of an existing tradition. The killer is isolated and miserable clergy.

Comment by: lisakaiser
Posted: 27/02/2015 15:12:27

It is sad that the Prof Beattie believes that marriage and sacramental mystery cannot co-exist in the RC priesthood. This another confirmation that the RCC holds immature & unhealthy attitudes toward sex /sexuality. Sex/sexuality are God-given gifts that are part of our nature. Rejecting these gifts is a rejection of our God-created humanity. There is nothing special or mysterious about being celibate. It does not make one better than other people or closer to God. It does not "dissipate" mystery. Rather a married priesthood would reflect Adonai, Sovereign of the Universe, who has created us as partners in creation. That is embracing mystery.

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